# XY or K or joy or ...

## icpdesign — 2005-08-20 22:34:42

    Sometimes ago I read about joy and i liked the ideas behind the language very much, but i

    did not spend a lot of time on it though. Today I found that there is many efforts put for

    other languages (K, XY,Factor ...), WHY?

    What is the status of joy as of today?

    Thank you

    Taoufik

## Ivan Tomac — 2005-08-21 04:26:16

    --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "icpdesign"

    <taoufik.dachraoui@w...> wrote:

     > Sometimes ago I read about joy and i liked the ideas behind the

     language very much, but i

     > did not spend a lot of time on it though. Today I found that there

     is many efforts put for

     > other languages (K, XY,Factor ...), WHY?

    >

     Why not? I suspect that every 2nd or 3rd person on this board has had

    a go at implementing their own concatenative language and many of us

    are still at it.

    Each one trying to improve on Joy in some way using their own ideas or

    ideas presented on this message board.

    Others may just be doing it as an exercise or for fun considering that

    simple, interpreted concatenative languages are easy, trivial even, to

    implement.

     > What is the status of joy as of today?

    >

     The Joy implementation hasn't changed much and it's still a toy

    language that while useful for research of concatenative languages,

    it's not practical for much else.

    That is yet another reason why many of us decided to have a go at

    implementing our own languages.

     > Thank you

    > Taoufik

     Ivan