# Can't View Factor Talk Slides on Vista

## John — 2010-10-26 05:02:41

    Hi All,

    I've been trying to view the the factor talk slides on Windows Vista 32 bit but all I see are texts on black background. Is there some setup that I have to do?

    Has somebody experienced this before?

    I am using a HP G50 notebook.

    Thanks,

    John

## hiatoms — 2010-10-26 21:12:40

    Hi John,

    Just to let you know, Factor has a direct mailing list if you'd like a faster response.  Please take a look at the link below:

    http://concatenative.org/wiki/view/Factor/Mailing%20list

    Also, this is a known issue since Factor switched over to Uniscribe font rendering on Windows.

    One thing you could do is download a Ubuntu Live CD and VMware Player or VirtualBox (which are both free), boot the Live CD, download the Factor binaries and load the slides.  Yes, I realize this is kind of an extreme workaround. ;-)

    If you want to look at the slides of Slava's recent talk at DLS, you might need to download the current clean build which is listed below the v0.94 links on factorcode.org.

    Here's a recent link talking about the slides vocab: http://re-factor.blogspot.com/2010/10/presentations-in-factor.html

    Please post to the Factor mailing list to remind the devs that this is an issue affecting newcomers!

    Thanks,

    -Adam

     --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfsurban@...> wrote:

    >

    > Hi All,

    >

    > I've been trying to view the the factor talk slides on Windows Vista 32 bit but all I see are texts on black background. Is there some setup that I have to do?

    >

    > Has somebody experienced this before?

    >

    > I am using a HP G50 notebook.

    >

    > Thanks,

    > John

    >

## John — 2010-10-27 06:52:47

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks! Extreme workaround indeed. Maybe this is a sign that I should use a nix machine instead.

    Also thanks for the factor mailing list link.

    -John

     --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "hiatoms" <hiatoms@...> wrote:

    >

    >

    >

    > Hi John,

    >

    > Just to let you know, Factor has a direct mailing list if you'd like a faster response.  Please take a look at the link below:

    >

    > http://concatenative.org/wiki/view/Factor/Mailing%20list

    >

    > Also, this is a known issue since Factor switched over to Uniscribe font rendering on Windows.

    >

    > One thing you could do is download a Ubuntu Live CD and VMware Player or VirtualBox (which are both free), boot the Live CD, download the Factor binaries and load the slides.  Yes, I realize this is kind of an extreme workaround. ;-)

    >

    > If you want to look at the slides of Slava's recent talk at DLS, you might need to download the current clean build which is listed below the v0.94 links on factorcode.org.

    >

    > Here's a recent link talking about the slides vocab: http://re-factor.blogspot.com/2010/10/presentations-in-factor.html

    >

    > Please post to the Factor mailing list to remind the devs that this is an issue affecting newcomers!

    >

    > Thanks,

    >

    > -Adam

    >

    > --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfsurban@> wrote:

    > >

    > > Hi All,

    > >

    > > I've been trying to view the the factor talk slides on Windows Vista 32 bit but all I see are texts on black background. Is there some setup that I have to do?

    > >

    > > Has somebody experienced this before?

    > >

    > > I am using a HP G50 notebook.

    > >

    > > Thanks,

    > > John

    > >

    >

## hiatoms — 2010-10-27 19:05:32

    Actually, Factor's Windows support is great for a non-mainstream language!

    Supports SEH exception handling, non-blocking I/O using native APIs, native file system change monitoring/directory handling, Uniscribe font rendering, etc etc. That particular bug just happens to be annoying right now...

    Native API usage is a standard feature and taken seriously unlike a lot of languages that primarily grow up around only one or two *nix platforms.

    I used to develop Factor tools under Ubuntu and had no issues running the same tool under Windows as the stdlib abstracts away the platform specific requirements.  Now I build on Windows directly as the MS CL compiler is used there for the runtime (no more broken cygwin).

    -Adam

     --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfsurban@...> wrote:

    >

    >

    >

    > Hi Adam,

    >

    > Thanks! Extreme workaround indeed. Maybe this is a sign that I should use a nix machine instead.

    >

    > Also thanks for the factor mailing list link.

    >

    > -John

    >

    > --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "hiatoms" <hiatoms@> wrote:

    > >

    > >

    > >

    > > Hi John,

    > >

    > > Just to let you know, Factor has a direct mailing list if you'd like a faster response.  Please take a look at the link below:

    > >

    > > http://concatenative.org/wiki/view/Factor/Mailing%20list

    > >

    > > Also, this is a known issue since Factor switched over to Uniscribe font rendering on Windows.

    > >

    > > One thing you could do is download a Ubuntu Live CD and VMware Player or VirtualBox (which are both free), boot the Live CD, download the Factor binaries and load the slides.  Yes, I realize this is kind of an extreme workaround. ;-)

    > >

    > > If you want to look at the slides of Slava's recent talk at DLS, you might need to download the current clean build which is listed below the v0.94 links on factorcode.org.

    > >

    > > Here's a recent link talking about the slides vocab: http://re-factor.blogspot.com/2010/10/presentations-in-factor.html

    > >

    > > Please post to the Factor mailing list to remind the devs that this is an issue affecting newcomers!

    > >

    > > Thanks,

    > >

    > > -Adam

    > >

    > > --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfsurban@> wrote:

    > > >

    > > > Hi All,

    > > >

    > > > I've been trying to view the the factor talk slides on Windows Vista 32 bit but all I see are texts on black background. Is there some setup that I have to do?

    > > >

    > > > Has somebody experienced this before?

    > > >

    > > > I am using a HP G50 notebook.

    > > >

    > > > Thanks,

    > > > John

    > > >

    > >

    >

## chris glur — 2010-11-01 03:08:48

    Re. 'slides' and other aids-to-cognition: I previously wrote that not only do

    I favour UPPER-CASE but also colour to add extra 'dimensions'.

    OTOH these smarty-pants/non-ascii presentations that break communications

    between potential collaborators are disasterous. Like using pdf, when there

    are no diagrams or other NEED to use it.

    But related: what I can never get an answer on is

     what are these "can<multipleChars>t"

     instead of "can't"

    that I often get ?!

    <BTW can you see how colour would better explain the above sentence?>

    I suspect that they originate from Micro$loth-WORD?

    Isn't the quote-char a standard ASCII-char?

    So, why do they need to 'encode' it?

    I'd be relieved to 'unstack' this decade old mystery.

     On 10/27/10, hiatoms <hiatoms@...> wrote:

    >

    >

    > Actually, Factor's Windows support is great for a non-mainstream language!

    >

    > Supports SEH exception handling, non-blocking I/O using native APIs, native

    > file system change monitoring/directory handling, Uniscribe font rendering,

    > etc etc. That particular bug just happens to be annoying right now...

    >

    > Native API usage is a standard feature and taken seriously unlike a lot of

    > languages that primarily grow up around only one or two *nix platforms.

    >

    > I used to develop Factor tools under Ubuntu and had no issues running the

    > same tool under Windows as the stdlib abstracts away the platform specific

    > requirements.  Now I build on Windows directly as the MS CL compiler is used

    > there for the runtime (no more broken cygwin).

    >

    > -Adam

    >

    > --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfsurban@...> wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> Hi Adam,

    >>

    >> Thanks! Extreme workaround indeed. Maybe this is a sign that I should use

    >> a nix machine instead.

    >>

    >> Also thanks for the factor mailing list link.

    >>

    >> -John

    >>

    >> --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "hiatoms" <hiatoms@> wrote:

    >> >

    >> >

    >> >

    >> > Hi John,

    >> >

    >> > Just to let you know, Factor has a direct mailing list if you'd like a

    >> > faster response.  Please take a look at the link below:

    >> >

    >> > http://concatenative.org/wiki/view/Factor/Mailing%20list

    >> >

    >> > Also, this is a known issue since Factor switched over to Uniscribe font

    >> > rendering on Windows.

    >> >

    >> > One thing you could do is download a Ubuntu Live CD and VMware Player or

    >> > VirtualBox (which are both free), boot the Live CD, download the Factor

    >> > binaries and load the slides.  Yes, I realize this is kind of an extreme

    >> > workaround. ;-)

    >> >

    >> > If you want to look at the slides of Slava's recent talk at DLS, you

    >> > might need to download the current clean build which is listed below the

    >> > v0.94 links on factorcode.org.

    >> >

    >> > Here's a recent link talking about the slides vocab:

    >> > http://re-factor.blogspot.com/2010/10/presentations-in-factor.html

    >> >

    >> > Please post to the Factor mailing list to remind the devs that this is

    >> > an issue affecting newcomers!

    >> >

    >> > Thanks,

    >> >

    >> > -Adam

    >> >

    >> > --- In concatenative@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfsurban@> wrote:

    >> > >

    >> > > Hi All,

    >> > >

    >> > > I've been trying to view the the factor talk slides on Windows Vista

    >> > > 32 bit but all I see are texts on black background. Is there some

    >> > > setup that I have to do?

    >> > >

    >> > > Has somebody experienced this before?

    >> > >

    >> > > I am using a HP G50 notebook.

    >> > >

    >> > > Thanks,

    >> > > John

    >> > >

    >> >

    >>

    >

    >

    >